Not that I share the growing tendency toward apotheosis of the Founding Fathers, but since more and more people cite them in support of their own particular ideological agendas, it seems worth remembering that the FFs were diverse men with diverse views that we don’t, and perhaps can’t, fully know.

What is especially interesting is how often evangelical conservatives who are uneasy with the concept of “separation of church and state” cite Thomas Paine in support of their political views (Glenn Beck, for example). Presumably *Common Sense* is the focus of their interest, but evangelical conservatives must be unhappy with what he wrote in *Age of Reason*.

Moreover, many conservatives fancy themselves of a Libertarian mind and hence use Ayn Rand’s Objectivism to support their arguments, and yet support including more of their perception of Christian doctrine into law and government (social conservatism) — so much so that they are willing to compromise their principles of minimizing or eliminating government interference in the lives of citizens and to distort or suppress factual information and reason. How do these Christian conservatives reconcile the fact that Ayn Rand is well-known to have been an atheist, and moreover that she characterizes religion as intellectually primitive?

Below are some links to online resources that relate to this issue.

Age of Reason

Founding Fathers of the United States

The Founding Fathers

The Ayn Rand Institute

33 Responses to “The Framers, Rand, and Such”

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